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Subject: election debate
Wed May 05, 2010 2:33 pm
i thought this was quite funny so thought i would share
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top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1910"></a><strong>Guest</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Guest<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Wed May 05, 2010 3:11 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>LOL! thats awesome!<br />who you wanting to win btw ? i hope Labour stays in</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1910" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1912" id="p1912" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1912" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1912"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Wed May 05, 2010 7:44 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>well im a member of the pirate party but to be honest it would be amazing if we even get 1 seat.<br /><br />but out of the main parties i used to always be labour but i have really lost faith on them, being scottish never in a million years will i ever vote tory (fucking Maggie Thatcher cow <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_evil.gif" alt="Evil or Very Mad" longdesc="12" />) so im kinda leaning towards voting lib dem and hopeing for a hung parliament so we can see an end of the days were one party just forces all there ideas through even if the gd or not .</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1912" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1914" id="p1914" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1914" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1914"></a><strong>Guest</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Guest<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 6:09 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>i think gordon brown hasnt that much of a bad job, hes like obama he took over a failing leadership and hes being accused of causing it while blair becomes the EU's best friend.<br />maggie thatcher is the reason why id never ever vote tory even tho i wasnt alive duting the 80's i know enough to not go for them. but i think if gordon has a shot he could atleast pull us out of the debt recession hes only just starting to come out of his shell, plus having a scottish pm is legendary.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1914" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1916" id="p1916" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1916" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1916"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 9:30 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>i see where your coming from he just doesn't inspire faith in me, also even though he done well with the recession the uk now has some amount of debt, the main thing for me is that labour are not what the used to be and i think its time for a change.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1916" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1917" id="p1917" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1917" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1917"></a><strong>Guest</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Guest<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 10:26 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Labour all the way!!<br /><br />Lib dems are promising to get rid of uni fees, they can't do that so its bull, but yeah i'd prefer lib dem/labour parliment anything apart from david cameron, if he gets in, its safe to say the north,, and working class, are fucked.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1917" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1918" id="p1918" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1918" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1918"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 10:46 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>I can't see why the can't , we don't have them in scotland and england never used to have them. Plus it means more people can go rather than just who can afford to</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1918" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1921" id="p1921" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1921" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1921"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 1:18 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>well i realised that the area i live in is one of the strongest labour areas in Scotland so really there was no point voting for anyone but them</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1921" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1922" id="p1922" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1922" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1922"></a><strong>Guest</strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Guest<br /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 3:38 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>If everyone can go to uni though the qualification will not be as widely recognised, then people will have to get an even higher qualification, also if everyone can go to uni, some people will abuse that right and just go for hte hell of it when they dont really want too. Also the standards of uni's will slip.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1922" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1923" id="p1923" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1923" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1923"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Thu May 06, 2010 4:06 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>i know what your are saying, in some fields but we need more people with qualifications in others there already to many but there are a lot of jobs that just want you have a degree to show your capable of it and it doesn't matter what field.<br /><br />with people staying in higher education all the time the way it works in Scotland is you allowed 1 time at a level free anymore you pay.<br /><br />so say you go for a HNC then HND and finally a degree you dint pay for any but if you want to HNC then you pay for the second one.<br /><br />Finally one question is it right to tell some one you can not go to uni because you can not afford it? while the rich boy down the street doesn't have this problem.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1923" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1934" id="p1934" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1934" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1934"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>r3lic222</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/14-15.jpg" alt="r3lic222" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 318<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-12-03<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Aylesbury<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Fri May 07, 2010 11:11 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>The way the system works now technically allows anyone to go to university - the loan is meant to be your living allowance - so really anyone can go to university. Obviously it is difficult to live on £3500pa and I am talking from experience however it is possible, you don't need to be rich to go to university. You end up with a huge debt at the end but the point is the degree will eventually land you a higher paying job which will allow you to pay the loan off. I am definitely not saying the current system is right and regardless of what happens I will still have ~£25000 loan but what I am saying is the current system does not restrict people from going to uni.<br /><br />There are a number of things you have to ask yourself however:<br />Will providing free university encourage poorer families to go to university<br />Will having a higher educated population improve or ruin our country<br />Will the degree have any value<br /><br />The third point has been mentioned by Gabrielle, if everyone has a degree, effectively the degree is worthless. You will not get a gain from having a degree, you will only lose out from not having it. This also links in to the second point; a country needs to have different levels of workers, if 100% of the British population were to go into professional jobs and expect high salaries etc who will do the manual jobs such as farming and building etc. This then leads to immigration, companies will look abroad for people to do these jobs because everyone will start charging too much because they are more qualified, which then leads to high levels of immigrants, leading to people complaining. This obviously needs to be discussed in more detail but I have summarised the basics here.<br /><br />Finally point 1. The digital divide is a good example of this; the digital divide is a new divide in society relating to people being computer literate and using the internet etc. In an attempt to get the number of poorer families onto the internet and reduce the digital divide labour spent millions of pounds on providing laptops and internet access to poorer families. After a number of months a survey was called to assess the success of the system and it was found that a large majority had in fact sold the computers they were given in order to raise money for various things - clearing debts, buying necessities and often to fuel a drug habit. Providing university education for free does not necessarily mean the poorer families will go to university.<br /><br />Therefore, families that can afford to go to university and pay the tuition fees (which are equated into better facilities) will be getting the education for free whilst many poor families remain unchanged. Obviously there are exceptions to this and a number of poorer families would benefit however it would result in the facilities of the universities dropping.<br /><br />As I stated earlier, there is a lot more to this and this doesn't really represent my views fully, I just thought I would offer a counter argument for you to mull over. And for the record I was backing the Lib Dems <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_smile.gif" alt="Smile" longdesc="2" /></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1934" style=""><td class="row1 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row1 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="http://www.patgaunt.co.uk" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/empty.gif" alt="http://www.patgaunt.co.uk" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1935" id="p1935" style=""><td class="row2" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1935" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1935"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>r3lic222</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/14-15.jpg" alt="r3lic222" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 318<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-12-03<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Aylesbury<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Fri May 07, 2010 11:12 am</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Oh and just a second note, I believe the Lib Dems were proposing to abolish tuition fees (correct me if I am wrong) which means people would still have to pay for their own upkeep (which costs more than the tuition fees) so technically poor families would still be in the same situation.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 10.5t60 26 40 40.5 24 45 12 50 5 45 .5 39q0 38-9.5 76t-19 60-27.5 56q-3 6-10 18t-11 22-8 24h277q78 0 135 57t57 135z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Like</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 576q0 26-19 45t-45 19q-27 0-45.5-19t-18.5-45q0-27 18.5-45.5t45.5-18.5q26 0 45 18.5t19 45.5zm160 512v-640q0-26-19-45t-45-19h-288q-26 0-45 19t-19 45v640q0 26 19 45t45 19h288q26 0 45-19t19-45zm1129-149q55 61 55 149-1 78-57.5 135t-134.5 57h-277q4 14 8 24t11 22 10 18q18 37 27 57t19 58.5 10 76.5q0 24-.5 39t-5 45-12 50-24 45-40 40.5-60 26-82.5 10.5q-26 0-45-19-20-20-34-50t-19.5-52-12.5-61q-9-42-13.5-60.5t-17.5-48.5-31-48q-33-33-101-120-49-64-101-121t-76-59q-25-2-43-20.5t-18-43.5v-641q0-26 19-44.5t45-19.5q35-1 158-44 77-26 120.5-39.5t121.5-29 144-15.5h129q133 2 197 78 58 69 49 181 39 37 54 94 17 61 0 117 46 61 43 137 0 32-15 76z" fill="#666"/></svg><span>Dislike</span><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></button></div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post--1935" style=""><td class="row2 browse-arrows" align="center" valign="middle" width="150"><a href="#top"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_up_arrow.gif" alt="Back to top" loading="lazy" /></a> <a href="#bottom"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_down_arrow.gif" alt="Go down" loading="lazy" /></a></td><td class="row2 messaging gensmall" width="100%" height="28"><table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="middle"> <a href="http://www.patgaunt.co.uk" title="Visit poster's website" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/empty.gif" alt="http://www.patgaunt.co.uk" /></a> </td></tr></table></td></tr><tr class="post post--1939" id="p1939" style=""><td class="row1" valign="top" width="150"><span class="name"><a name="1939" style="position: relative; 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I didn't know you were running and now it's too late to vote for you <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_sad.gif" alt="Sad" longdesc="3" /> voting was yesterday unfortunately. Definitely would have liked to see some of your other policies too : <img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/i/smiles/icon_biggrin.png" alt="Very Happy" longdesc="1" /></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 31-48t17.5-48.5 13.5-60.5q7-39 12.5-61t19.5-52 34-50q19-19 45-19 46 0 82.5 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id="1944"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Fri May 07, 2010 12:00 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>hehe i would have loved to have voted for captain.<br /><br /><br />ok many points here r3lic,<br /><br />firstly we still get student loans to help for living also a bursaries for the poorest which they dont need to pay back.<br /><br />now not everyone would want to go to university take me i left school at 17 and never bothered till i was 21 to go and then decided its not for me so droped out. i know many people from poor and rich backgrounds that did not want to take this route.<br /><br />Will providing free university encourage poorer families to go to university<br /><br />yes, quite simply soome of the smartest people i know come from poor backgrounds and have went and done amazing things<br /><br />Will having a higher educated population improve or ruin our country<br /><br />nothing else but improve, name any basic trade and you will see its under strain just now as other countrys can do this far cheaper than us so with an educated society we will be able to have more industries that can compete on a global scale.<br /><br />Will the degree have any value<br /><br />of course it will, there is already mickey mouse degrees out there but as i said earlier a lot of employers don't care what it is in they just want to know are you capable.<br /><br />there will always be diffrent level of workers in the uk like me i have no intention of going to uni and i know many like me, but my 2 sisters and my brother did and if they were faced with the type of debt u know have there lifes would not be the same as what they are now.<br /><br /> <dl class="codebox"> <dt><span class="genmed"><b>Quote :</b></span></dt> <dd class="quote">and often to fuel a drug habit</dd> </dl><br />what relevance does this have???<br /><br />now a couple simple question.<br /><br />how did it used to be?<br />did that not work?<br />why did they change it?<br /><br />quite simply don't believe the crap the government feeds you half the time.<br /><br />the reason it never changed in Scotland is we are a poor country and this would have caused the death of our education system<br /><br />the bottom line is the government need to save money somewhere and thought hey we can get away with this</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" 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/></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row2" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Fri May 07, 2010 12:42 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>Before you get angry at me I did say that these are alternative views and not necessarily my own.<br /><br />I too know many people from both backgrounds who are very intelligent and as I said it would benefit poor families but many would not take advantage of it.<br /><br />I know that we are outsourcing our production to other countries and that is where a huge problem lies. Think what would happen in a World War, for example if we went to war with China where would all of our clothes etc come from. As you said not everyone wants to go to university and that is fine, I was actually criticising the government in their efforts to get everyone to go to university and not peoples choice of not going. <br /><br />As you said there are already many micky mouse degrees out there and one reason many people choose not to go to university is because they do not want to follow the educational route any further, often not getting on with academics and much preferring hands on things instead. Offering free university is still unlikely to attract these people because they simply don't want to do academic things any more.<br /><br />The drug habit part was simply a statement that our lecturer gave to us and seemed to bring up very often so I dropped it in.<br /><br />As far as I know it used to be the same as in Scotland; bursaries for living and free tuition fees and I am sure this is a better system, and as I pointed out in my first post I do not think the current system is right and I am someone who is feeling the major impacts of it.<br /><br />As far as I know it did work and as for why they changed it it was probably to get more money. People were furious when they did change it but unfortunately I don't know the ins and outs of it all.<br /><br />What I have said has not come from the government but from my Professional Ethical and Policy Issues module.<br /><br />And just in case you think I am one of the 'posh pro uni' people who assume that the only way you can make money is by getting a degree then I am not. My brother left school after doing his A-levels with the aim of going to uni but instead deferred twice. In the time that he deferred he started to learn up on computing, especially web development and eventually set up his own web development company. 5 years later he now makes a huge amount of money and owns an Aston Martin etc etc so I know from close family experience that university is not the only way in life. As a comparison I am just about to leave uni and have a huge debt.<br /><br />I will say one last time - I am not making these arguments from my own views but seeing as we live in a democracy decided to even up the opinions of this forum.</div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 45-18.5t19-45.5zm160-512v640q0 26-19 45t-45 19h-288q-26 0-45-19t-19-45v-640q0-26 19-45t45-19h288q26 0 45 19t19 45zm1184 0q0 86-55 149 15 44 15 76 3 76-43 137 17 56 0 117-15 57-54 94 9 112-49 181-64 76-197 78h-129q-66 0-144-15.5t-121.5-29-120.5-39.5q-123-43-158-44-26-1-45-19.5t-19-44.5v-641q0-25 18-43.5t43-20.5q24-2 76-59t101-121q68-87 101-120 18-18 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class="name"><a name="1953" style="position: relative; top: -30px; width: 1px;" id="1953"></a><strong><span style="color:#1826BD"><strong>crack</strong></span></strong></span><br /><span class="postdetails poster-profile">Admin<br /><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/1911/10/66/12/avatars/2-70.jpg" alt="crack" style="max-width: 200px; max-height: 600px" /><br /><br /><div class="dd_award right"></div><div class="award_more"></div><br><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Posts</span> : </span> 1250<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Join date</span> : </span> 2009-11-24<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Age</span> : </span> 39<br /><span class="label"><span style="color:#7f7b7b;">Location</span> : </span> Wishaw / Scotland<br /></span><br /><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="election debate Empty" style="width:150px;height:1px" /></td><td class="row1" valign="top" width="100%" height="100%"><table width="100%" height="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><span class="postdetails"><img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minipost.gif" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" />Subject: Re: election debate <img src="https://2img.net/s/t/13/82/29/i_icon_minitime.gif" alt="election debate I_icon_minitime" border="0" />Fri May 07, 2010 1:01 pm</span></td><td valign="top" nowrap="nowrap" class="post-options"> </td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="hr"><hr /></td></tr><tr height="100%" valign="top"><td colspan="2"><div class="postbody"><div>sorry i did not mean to come across as being angry,<br /><br />the drug thing did get up my noise a bit, im just tired of that get thrown in left right and center against people from a poor background.<br /><br />they are alternative views im just firmly in the camp that the government should provide every citizen with free education, health care, fire and police services and stay out of our personal lives.<br /><br /><br />you make very valid point about if we go to war with china and its a side i have not thought of before mainly because im one of these day dreamers that believe there is never a cause for war. on the other hand the countries we out source to become just as relient on us as we do for them so would never be in either sides interest to go to war.<br /><br />on a complete side note heres a torrent site you might like they do nothing but documentaries they have some right good ones there<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://mvgroup.org/" class="postlink" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://mvgroup.org/</a></div><div class="clear"></div></div><span class="gensmall"></span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><div class="fa_like_div"><p class="fa_like_list" style="display: none;"></p><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><svg width="15px" height="15px" viewBox="0 0 1792 1792" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/2000/svg"><path d="M320 1344q0-26-19-45t-45-19q-27 0-45.5 19t-18.5 45q0 27 18.5 45.5t45.5 18.5q26 0 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But that's the way of the world.<br /><br />I agree ideally the government should provide all the basic services for free and as you say keep out of our personal lives but unfortunately that also wil never happen,i guessthey have to watch us to take care of us bu with the internet its so easy to monitor us i doubt they would stop even if they didn't have to watch us.<br /><br />I also hope there will be no war and hope there won't be in our lives but unfortunately not everyone agrees with that and feel that the only way to make a point is by forcing it into people.<br /><br />I'll check out the site,sounds good. 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